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Exactly how much [extra] housework does a husband create?

Posted by artfldgr On April - 4 - 2008

Notice how this study does not look at total work for men, and total work for women, but only total work for women and how that is modified by circumstances, while ignoring the men’s outside contribution.

Also note in the graphic, that her work load has gone down to what a single woman used to do!

In this way, his work does not count, nor does the type, nor does the time or salary.

If he works 60 hours a week, and makes 100k and provides a house with two car garage he is exactly the same as a man who works 35 hours a week at minimum wage and provides subsistence living.

In BOTH cases the family does better than they would if she didn’t perform.

In the second case, her performance can make the difference between having a home and living in a shelter.

So what message are they sending the men? And what are the payouts when you include things that were arbitrarily cut out to create a designed outcome?

Well, in this case all men’s work is equivalent, and all men’s contributions from work are zero.

So by their reckoning a man who works 1 hour a week but does extra work because he only works seven hours is a much better husband than a man who works 60 hours a week, and doesn’t have time to help with that extra work.

Meanwhile, they don’t point out that she is being totally supported and cared for because she does 7 hours of extra work!

He trades 1 hour of work savings, for ALL HIS WORK

She trades 7 hours of extra work, for an equal share or better of the outcome of his labor, since women control the purse strings of the home. As long as this is the book keeping method, he does much better off being a bum!!!!!!! The outcome is that everyone sinks to their best payout, and under this rubric, the best payout is to be a useless bum.

And they say situation gets “worse” when she gets children…
That can only be asserted if she is assumed to be someone who shouldn’t contribute but only collect.
[the complaint level is the same if he hires a maid and the maid does all the work!]

It’s interesting but she has a work multiplier over him.

At 40 hours a week, she exchanges 1 hour for every 5 he works.

At 60 hours a week, she exchanges 1 hour for every 8 he works.

If he is a bum doing nothing, he exchanges 1 hour for every 7 she works.

Now that’s without valuing the time to some monetary amount…

If the guy who works an hour makes a yearly wage of 250k a year…
She is exchanging 1 hour for 686 of family lucre.

By the way, she sets the level of work, and he has no means of changing it.
So at that high salary level of exchange, she might actually be doing no work, in exchange for things! (she gets more for less)

Now if the guy makes an average wage, the mean, then he is trading 673 a week for 7 hours of her work. That’s 96 dollars an hour for her, as a wage at his working rate of 16 dollars an hour.

That is that he has to work at 16 dollars an hour to give her 96 dollars for each hour she works on his behalf if he works 40 hours, if he works 60 then he earns 11 dollars per hour with a wife getting that 96 dollars.

By the way, that doesn’t figure that the state is taking taxes!

No wonder she doesn’t like working outside of the home.

Where else can you earn 96 dollars an hour cleaning house?
Of course she earns less when she has kids, but she is being paid to have her own children.

Personally, such crappy accounting games serve only one purpose.

To screw up our judgments so that we make bad choices in life.

This assertion favors her having a low income bum who stays home and does minimal work, over a average Joe who works and brings his salary home.

Now while my number playing isn’t scientific, it gives you an idea of the game.
Meanwhile their numbers are not scientific either, they just sound it, and so that’s what makes it a game.

The point being is that even if my number play is wrong, it doesn’t matter, theirs is just as wrong, and two wrongs can’t make a right.

I have a feeling that they just hoisted themselves by their own petard.

Exactly how much housework does a husband create?

Weekly hours of basic houswork by gender and marital satus

Having a husband creates an extra seven hours a week of housework for women, according to a University of Michigan study of a nationally representative sample of U.S. families. For men, the picture is very different: A wife saves men from about an hour of housework a week.

The findings are part of a detailed study of housework trends, based on 2005 time-diary data from the federally-funded Panel Study of Income Dynamics, conducted since 1968 at the U-M Institute for Social Research (ISR).

“It’s a well-known pattern,” said ISR economist Frank Stafford, who directs the study. “There’s still a significant reallocation of labor that occurs at marriage—men tend to work more outside the home, while women take on more of the household labor. Certainly there are all kinds of individual differences here, but in general, this is what happens after marriage. And the situation gets worse for women when they have children.”

Overall, the amount of housework done by U.S. women has dropped considerably since 1976, while the amount of housework done by men has increased, according to Stafford. In 1976, women did an average of 26 hours of housework a week, compared with about 17 hours in 2005. Men did about six hours of housework a week in 1976, compared with about 13 hours in 2005.

But when the researchers looked at just the last 10 years, comparing how much housework single men and women in their 20s did in 1996 with how much they did in 2005 if they stayed single versus if they got married, they found a slightly different pattern.

Both the men and the women who got married did more housework than those who stayed single, the analysis showed. “Marriage is no longer a man’s path to less housework,” said Stafford, a professor in the College of Literature, Science, and the Arts.

For the study, researchers analyzed data from time diaries, considered the most accurate way to assess how people spend their time. They supplemented the analysis with data from questionnaires asking both men and women to recall how much time they spent on basic housework in an average week, including time spent cooking, cleaning and doing other basic work around the house. Excluded from these “core” housework hours were tasks like gardening, home repairs, or washing the car.

The researchers also examined how age and the number of children, as well as marital status and age, influenced time spent doing housework.

Single women in their 20s and 30s did the least housework—about 12 works a week on average, while married women in their 60s and 70s did the most—about 21 hours a week. Men showed a somewhat different pattern. Older men did more housework than younger men, but single men did more in all age groups than married men.

Married women with more than three kids did an average of about 28 hours of housework a week. Married men with more than three kids, by comparison, logged only about 10 hours of housework a week.

Source: University of Michigan

By the way, this shows that working women get screwed the most!

She leaves the home, and her husband makes average, her rumunration, if average, drops to his 16 dollars an hour (or so).

So this system sets her up to feel miserable when she is in the best place, and miserable if she tries to fix it becasue she is put in a bad place.

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