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Feminista Wars, Part 34324

Posted by Bernard Chapin On January - 21 - 2008

Brothers, I usually hate to stomp over my own posts—here’s Inferno 8 on Rush Limbaugh if you missed it from earlier today—but an educational opportunity has arose and it provides an opportunity for me to showcase the argumentative habits of a few radical feminists.

About a week ago I wrote a review of a children’s fairy tale book designed with the purpose of indoctrinating young girls about there being no need to get married in order to be happy. Here’s a quote from the PR release which was sent to me by the authors. The text is described as “A contemporary fairy tale for all ages, [the book] was written to reduce the overwhelming sense of failure, self-doubt, and despair that some single women face.”

To be perfectly honest, the attempt to propagandize offended me more than the message itself. They’ll be less marriage in America in general and what people do doesn’t matter much to me. The authors sent me a copy of book after I said I’d review it. Why they thought I’d like it is not clear, but, in a personal email one of the authors told me that she bore me no grudge. However, shortly thereafter, she began posting it on several women’s boards in the hopes of recruiting sympathy from her peers. What she did not do was respond to any of my arguments. It seemed to me she wanted to appear a victim and get the commiseration which comes from that in some circles.

One of the blogs I found today had several posts which I will refute here. Why? Well, unlike the author of that children’s book I need no help from my peers, but several of the Mensnewdaily.com fellows may have been abused with similar stuff in the past and hopefully what I bring up will aid you in the future.

I should note that it seems like we have fewer and fewer clashes with these people nowadays. This is due to the internet being the least effective venue for their message. As the reader knows, radical feminism relies on emotion for its every tenet, and affective responses come across poorly on the printed page.

Ours is an emotion-plagued, soundbyte society in which written correspondence may be is last region where logic holds dominion. Therefore, radical feminists generally avoid arenas in which they cannot shout their foes down. They delete access to comment pages or delete responses after they’re typed. Theirs is a most cowardly existence, but female privilege allows them to maintain it.

Let us turn now to this website called Feminist Philosophers [hit the link, I’m not kidding] along with the entry concerning your amiable Uncle Bern. We find, “it was thus with a certain amount of perverse glee that I discovered the existence of one Bernard Chapin, writer and oddball extraordinaire. One of our readers alerted me to his existence after he published a scathing review of her modern fairytale book…Smelling an oddball, I googled and, oh boy, did I strike gold. Bernard’s vitriolic outpourings on the horrors of today’s women are truly a joy to behold.”

Before we begin, let me identify for the reader in advance that what we have here are logical fallacies for the most part. They vary from being ad hominem’s to straw men to red herrings. No matter what they say about me though it doesn’t ultimately matter because tearing me down leaves my positions untouched. Furthermore, notice how corrupted by PC these minds are. All they can do is think within the parameters of race, class, and sex. If they don’t force their opponents into a straw man box then they have nothing. One last thing, I’ve heard people try to say that I make use of ad hominem argumentation but I do not. An ad hominem fallacy is when a person attempts to refute their opponent by insulting them but I never do that. I do insult people but always take seriously the burden of rejoinder and never fail to refute their positions.

As for me being “an oddball extraordinaire,” this is doubtful. I come off as being a pretty normal person but I suppose it’s too subjective an insult to say one way or another. Who cares? She can think what she wants and I’ll respect her diversity. With the mocking of flight attendants, here we have a class link which sounds believable on its face; yet the claim is totally out of context. Whatever someone does for work is fine with me but if you make a point of using your vocational status as a means to justify yourself as an expert—as these two ladies did—then you’re asking for it.

Here’s the PR release again:

“With wisdom gleaned from their careers as single, globe-trotting flight attendants, first-time authors [person A] and [person B] have crafted a modern-day book that celebrates singleness.”

QED: my point remains valid. The release makes it sound as if being a flight attendant adds weight to their voice which is just as absurd now as it was when I first said so.

The next claim that my “vitriolic outpourings on the horrors of today’s women are truly a joy to behold.” Now we get to the sexism link. I don’t think modern women are horrific at all, but, generally given the change in their essence, one should have a presumption against marriage. If this person wanted to persuade then she would be wise to explain why this is not the case and why modern women make better wives than their predecessors. Of course, that would be too generative and productive a stance to take I suppose.

Concerning an old article of mine she asserts that divorce leaves women broke which it doesn’t and this would only be possible if there were no disparity between bride and groom income (and even then!). Then a point I made about student loans and debt comes next. Actually, most parents don’t pay off their child’s debts. There’s a whole lot of literature out there about loans breaking a generation which she can read if she wants. If this person’s parents paid for her then I congratulate her. Again though, there’s nothing which explains, or even ventures to guess, why marrying a modern woman is advantageous for men.

She mocks female promiscuity as a concern for men, but if she thinks it isn’t then it is not me who is the oddball. Potential promiscuity on the part of a mate is a concern ubiquitous among men. My oeuvre contains a serious amount of advice that would be helpful to women along these lines because I think a serious factor which plagues them is the failure to acknowledge the nature of male sexuality. Making fun of it, minimalizing it, or pretending that we’ve just been brainwashed is disastrous and puts young girls on the path to misery and resentment.

If these women really cared about children they would try to make certain that they do not make the same mistakes they did. Youth and beauty are integral to male desire. If I were them I’d just admit this and move on. Why lie to yourself? And promiscuity? Battling over that is preposterous. Should they doubt this then I recommend Promiscuity: An Evolutionary History of Sperm Competition to see its influence on male behavior throughout the animal kingdom.

More calumny follows: “Bernard will remain a self-confirmed toxic bachelor.” There’s nothing toxic about me. I get along with people and greet those I don’t know with the hand of friendship. I wonder how they greet strangers? I don’t subdivide the general population into ideological constructs and treat them in a disparate manner though…no matter who they are. I try to treat everyone fairly. Even these radicals, should I ever meet one them would find me courteous and polite. Life is too short to hate others. Besides, some of them may come around eventually (who knows?). As for getting married, I would not rule it out but maintain a presumption against it.

The sentence: “Leering at attractive young women in the street as ‘a political statement’, (especially if their waists are about seven tenths the size of their hips)…” refers to an old article of mine and is correct. I won’t avoid looking at those who dress provocatively. If they don’t want to be leered at then they should wear baggy clothes. Of course, the best thing about getting older is that there are more and more women out there who are younger than you. I used to think 30 was old, but now I think they’re smoking babes! So, life is pretty good.

As for, “…castigating single mothers as the source of all society’s evils.” They certainly aren’t. The federocracy is the cause of most of our social evils in society and they’ve set up single mothers to fail. It’s easy to say you’d reject the dole when you’re a grown adult but not when you’re an adolescent. No, it’s certainly not their fault. It’s the leftist mindset which views taxes as charity and holds every government program to be effective.

Lastly, I enjoyed some of the Freud I read but my knowledge of humanity is a product of reading history and literature for the most part. I highly recommend history for those who desire knowledge of the human mind. The discipline is a gigantic compendium of case studies. It’s sublime.

Concerning comment one:

“Such perfection in misogyny is worth bringing to our attention.” I am not a misogynist in the least. Questioning a woman or battling radical feminists does not make one a misogynist. I treat the people I meet with respect and hate no one. They should just learn how to argue.

Concerning comment two:

“…now I hate all the stupid b***hes.” I don’t hate anyone. My recommendation is to discontinue the practice of attacking the person because even if you’re right it does not disprove what they say.

“I have a theory that every time someone uses the phrase “nowadays,” particularly in an introductory thesis, they’re about to say something massively stupid.” Well, I disagree and see no reason why that would be true. It’s a perfectly good word but you do what you want and I’ll respect your diversity.

Next we come to racism (which was inevitable). She argues that my use of the name “Tyrone” refers to black men. Nope, it didn’t. I happen to know the guy that wrote that and that wasn’t what he was thinking. Yet this is how radical feminism poisons minds. They hold men to be ants who have no thoughts that are not evil and hateful. In fact, while I have met a few black guys named Tyrone I also knew two white guys with that name as well. It is no longer a popular name at this point though…among anyone. It’s actually an Irish name—County Tyrone in Ulster— and there was a very famous (and white) actor named Tyrone Power of whom my father very much admired. Nice try though. You folks basically follow a preset script right? “Racist…sexist…classist…homophobe…” Why not just think instead?

“We’re absolutely sure that this guy is for real? I know that I should know better than to ask by now, but it still astonishes me every time that people this openly hateful of women could actually exist.”

I’m for real but it’s an indelible sign of privilege to believe that those who disagree with you do not exist. You are the world! I guess you don’t have to associate with the general population much, but you may one day realize that arguing with a radical feminist has no correlation with hating women. Women are my equals. I have a right to point out that you’re not oppressed although if you totalitarians took over the country I’m sure that I would lose that right.

Comment 3:

“I originally wondered if this was a spoof, or the work of a high level troll. But I think not. There are just too many articles, and two books as well. I suppose it may be a persona for the purposes of generating cash and courting controversy. Still odious, though.” If what I say is so “out there” then they should have no trouble refuting it…but they can’t.

Here’s some angles for them to develop: “How could it be that women oppressed? Why should embrace modern women for long-term relationships? How is marriage advantageous to males in the present environment? Why should there be affirmative action? Isn’t discrimination against one discrimination against all?”

These folks may be surprised to discover how many fellows agree with my perspective.

Comment 4:

There is nothing to refute.

Comment 5:

“We started a blog after reading your article to look out for this guy as a flight attendant group. What a sad, sad man. But, [their book] is getting lots of attention and it really is a great book about finding happiness from within and helping others.”

Is it? Then why fear me so?

And “look out for this guy”? What does that mean? This is from the author of the children’s book. What a totalitarian nature. Agree with me or I’ll get you! Why doesn’t she just learn how to argue instead of plot revenge? If she’s right then verbal defense would be quite easy for her. If she’s wrong, well then I guess she would do what she did here. Run around posting on blogs and threatening the heretic. My recommendation is to simply study and grow.

Further, if a group of stewardesses were so unprofessional as to discriminate against and mistreat a customer then isn’t what I said about them in the article true by default? What a blunder to post this. I was more right than I knew. I’ll be happy to argue with any flight attendant about the fact that their job does not make them a relationship expert. How could it?

This is really about ego. Writers write for an audience and one can’t expect everyone to love them. That’s the business. As somebody currently in it, I think this lady better thicken her skin because people who read her stuff have every right to denigrate it. This person actually told me at great length of how she was a Christian but what kind of Christian wants to do something bad to a person who criticizes her? That’s sick. Some Christian, I have another recommendation: repent. Yikes.

Comment 6:

Ah, an old friend. I am dubbed a “sexist a**hole.” Yawn. No, I’m not but her husband is a noted poker authority. That’s a lie about my reviews though. I have given her husband’s books high ratings at every opportunity (never below a 4 on amazon).

Finally we get to homophobia. I thought they forgot it! No, I’m not a homophobe but I sometimes disagree with gay rights activists. I neither fear them nor hate them. “He’s a real tool.” Nice!

Well friends I hope that was helpful to you should you ever have to run across these types on your own.

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  1. SM777 Said,

    “Bernard’s vitriolic outpourings on the horrors of today’s women are truly a joy to behold.”

    Well, for the record, I always thought your outpourings were a joy to behold.

    Please keep up the good work.

    Posted on January 21st, 2008 at 8:27 pm

  2. mruffolo Said,

    Ditto.

    Posted on January 21st, 2008 at 8:40 pm

  3. donnieboy57 Said,

    perhaps when the beast becomes potus, she will invite bernard to the white house to discuss these issues in a public forum so we all can learn “together” and help each other understand the “universe” so that we can come to grips with our own sexuality and purpose…………………. or maybe not. cackle cackle cackle.

    Posted on January 21st, 2008 at 9:03 pm

  4. Bernard Chapin Said,

    Dude, I’ll be a dead man!
    But I won’t rat on any of you my brothers. I’ll McCain it up even if Hillary makes me start giving her pedicures.

    Posted on January 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 am

  5. PolishKnight Said,

    Lots of other propoganda has come out “celebrating singleness” including targeted towards children such as “Pocahantas” where the Indian queen is a tree worshipping (literally) hippy who rejects Captain Smith’s marriage proposal rather than the reality where she goes back to England with him (and later dies young, tragically.) It’s ironic that this is a 180 degree turnaround from former Disney projects where the young women are portrayed as helpless such as Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella.

    The left loves to believe their own propoganda including the “women only earn 70 cents on a man’s dollar” statistic or claims of women being beaten up on Superbowl Sunday (now how does that make sense? Why would men who are busy watching the game bother beating up their wives? Sheesh, that’s like worrying about a wife nagging you when Oprah’s on!) It doesn’t have to make much sense but rather work like an urban legend: It has to have some kind of loose correlation and be a likable statistic. Spider eggs in bubble yum and Mikey’s stomach blowing up from pop rocks are on the same level.

    The one myth that the feminists try to perpetuate is that women can overcome unattractiveness and be judged like aging men: by their intelligence and wealth. This doesn’t work though since most feminists are uninterested in sharing their wealth and use their intelligence, at best, as weapons to attack and emasculate men rather than empower them.

    It’s common for a young woman to get a date with a man by approaching him and saying she doesn’t know her way around the city or doesn’t know how to program her VCR. On the other hand, a man who “respects” a woman’s superiority will be treated like a child and patronized at best.

    This book celebrating singledom can be summed up best as they just want to get other women to throw in the towel along with them. Nearly all the men I know, including sexists, are married. That’s our biggest biological advantage that age isn’t an issue for us.

    Posted on January 22nd, 2008 at 12:56 pm

  6. lieweary Said,

    Even the author of the book admits that women are miserable. But she and the rest of the femnuts misdiagnose the cause. The problem is that they can’t have normal relationships; their whole lives have to revolve around feeling sorry for themselves.

    Posted on January 22nd, 2008 at 1:44 pm

  7. NotNOW Said,

    “If these women really cared about children they would try to make certain that they do not make the same mistakes they did.”

    But they don’t. I’ve reached the inescapable conclusion that modern feminists couldn’t possibly care less about children. Their hedonism and hatred of men blinds them to all else, period. If children must be misled in order to further their goal of revenge against men and endless self-indulgence for women, then so be it. If children must be sacrificed on the altar of single motherhood, then so be it. Boys are children too, but their needs don’t matter, even to their own mothers. Another article today tells us about boys being indoctrinated to “respect women”. Goal for boys: serve women. Goal for girls: self-indulgence. Examples are everywhere and too numerous to bother citing.

    Posted on January 29th, 2008 at 8:13 am

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